STARION CONQUEST TSI DOHC SCAM-WHO WAS BEHIND IT

[turbo-kid]

read entire thread please...









just thought everyone should hear the good news

Originally Posted by http://www.geocities.com/nwmeet03/head/head.htm , ON 05/29/2003

G54B DOHC HEAD
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As you can see, there is about 2.5 inches of clearance on the intake side as it is now. With the new head, a stock manifold would fit in nicely with room to spare.
Overall, the head is quite larger, but to the top of the valve covers it is about the same height. The dual cam head appears to be a lot wider, but the manifold surfaces are what counts. The exhaust side is actually almost identical (in position) to the stock head. While the intake side moved out about one inch. The distributor was moved to the passenger side, and the new head takes part in a manual chain slack adjuster, like a motorcycle.
The combustion chamber is quite small, I would have to say about 55 to 60 percent of the volume of original. This would be a problem for those of us running high boost levels, as the compression may be raised as high as 9.5 or more instead of the stock 7.0 to 1. -I haven't had a chance to measure the chambers yet.
The new head will make it extremely difficult to utilize the A/C, but I'm sure a bracket can be manufactured to mount the idler.
The valves are smaller(duh) than the stock ones, but keep in mind the port area is going to increase, as will the flow.
The exhaust side of the new head is the one with square bolt patterns around the ports. The intake has a triangular pattern.
Below are some pics of a Mazda head off of a Miata 1.8L. This is what I am trying to make the new head like. Even with a new design like this, and dual gears, it is only 1/4 inch taller than the stock head and cover, at their tallest points.








05/29/2003

Yea, you read it right! My friend Kevin back in Ohio informed me recently that a member of his StarQuest forum has aquired an ORIGINAL HKS DOHC head designed for the G54 SOHC engine...the intial investment to get the ball rolling is $12,000 for R&D. The first run will yeild 20 units, @ ~$2000 each. each run thereafter will cost less. the intiial investors will also see a price break as well as profit sharing from non-intial investors (customers).

this Head will be BETTER than the original HK$ version, as it will be cut from a solid piece of Billet aluminum, CNC'd design. There are SS valves already available for it, the Cams are already able to be produced, the hardware will be the same, only twice as much as before. And, cam gears are the same as stock... you just need a 2nd one. an appropriate length timing chain will be available. You can use all the stock gaskets, sheet metal valve covers will be produced. the seats are already installed and come with a 3angle valve job. and itll be threaded for NGK plugs.

Only 40% of the design of the NEW head will be based off the original HK$ design, so its small enough to be considered an ORIGINAL design and have its own Patent number. the Original HK$ version was originally designed for a G54/G52 NA hybrid motor which had a 2.3L Diesel crank in it, which were used in the IMSA/GTU race classes... same series as the NA FC3S :)

OH, and this new head will yeild a projected 18% increase in VE, all else remaining stock... including boost level on the 12A turbo.


origonal txt: http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/ar.../t-105733.html

[METRIC]

Originally Posted by turbo-kid

Yea, you read it right! My friend Kevin back in Ohio informed me recently that a member of his StarQuest forum has aquired an ORIGINAL HKS DOHC head designed for the G54 SOHC engine...the intial investment to get the ball rolling is $12,000 for R&D. The first run will yeild 20 units, @ ~$2000 each. each run thereafter will cost less. the intiial investors will also see a price break as well as profit sharing from non-intial investors (customers).

this Head will be BETTER than the original HK$ version, as it will be cut from a solid piece of Billet aluminum, CNC'd design. There are SS valves already available for it, the Cams are already able to be produced, the hardware will be the same, only twice as much as before. And, cam gears are the same as stock... you just need a 2nd one. an appropriate length timing chain will be available. You can use all the stock gaskets, sheet metal valve covers will be produced. the seats are already installed and come with a 3angle valve job. and itll be threaded for NGK plugs.

Only 40% of the design of the NEW head will be based off the original HK$ design, so its small enough to be considered an ORIGINAL design and have its own Patent number. the Original HK$ version was originally designed for a G54/G52 NA hybrid motor which had a 2.3L Diesel crank in it, which were used in the IMSA/GTU race classes... same series as the NA FC3S :)

OH, and this new head will yeild a projected 18% increase in VE, all else remaining stock... including boost level on the 12A turbo.


origonal txt: http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/ar.../t-105733.html

Your joking right ?? It's april fools ???

Did you take alook at the post date of the link ???
08-24-2003, 11:02 AM

The first sign of trouble from the great north west

John F Jamerson been there done that but thank my lucky stars I didn't buy that BS back then,, nice to dream though...

If you put the letters DOHC in the title of a thread in any Starion Conquest forum it will get 1000 hits easy..

[86tsi]

Some of the technical information in that thread is inaccurate. Having owned one of those motors (#3) and I had several discussions of the details with the actual builder of all 12 of them, I have some specific insights to it's build that are not public info.

I'm not gonna say its impossible that it could be made, but that soruce is highly suspisious, at best.

[Kelly]

No need for it anyways.

[METRIC]

Originally Posted by 86tsi

Some of the technical information in that thread is inaccurate. Having owned one of those motors (#3) and I had several discussions of the details with the actual builder of all 12 of them, I have some specific insights to it's build that are not public info.

I'm not gonna say its impossible that it could be made, but that soruce is highly suspisious, at best.

Your not going to say that some of those pictures of the cylinder head are yours ?
Or that you are the person that sold the head to John F Jamerson..?

Chad what ever happened to that head ?? Did JFJ actually receive the cylinder head????? because I know he was posting about doing the R&R and asking for financial support before he had the head in his possession ...

How many members got burnt in that deal???

He was from the great north west like you am I correct ???

So what ever happen to OL' JOHN F aka 'Rad Stuff, LLC' , aka 'DIK Performance Products' ??

http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/i...=John+Jamerson

Originally Posted by Kelly

No need for it anyways.

That's correct.. it was made for a NA motor not Forced Induction it would probably have been a handicap mod.. Nice piece of history though.

[86tsi]

There is way too much false info that has been passed arorund as fact, so much rumor spreading that some of the BS has some how become fact ;).

I'm not going to participate in that discussion, too much drama for me.

[METRIC]

So people that want to proceed with other transactions with you that may be reading this thread should ???

I kind of understand your reasoning but, wouldn't it be a good idea since a lot of *weight was put into that transaction..?

I'm wondering what actually happened myself...

No lynching Mob **here.







*(Drama)
**(I don't think anyone on this site bought into it)

[86tsi]

I had nothing to do with that "transaction", your link is proof of that.

It's like this: say you loaned a tool to your neighbor to fix up and sell his car. The car gets sold and the buyer gets mad because it turns out to be a lemon and he's out all that $$ on a junk car.

Are you a bad person in this scenerio?

I have nothing to hide, and you can link anywone you wish to this topic, they'll see it the same way. What I don't want to hear is all the hate, BS rumors, and inuendo.

It's too expensive to reproduce and have a viable marketable product, but John wanted to try anyway. I loaned him the head. What he did with the project, and to others $$ is not my business. I didn't ask for any compensation what-so-ever. I was not a partner, nor in any way tied to this projet other than as a material loan. I have no "sway" or "leverage" on John, what he told others woudl get for their $$ is entirely unknown to me, and as far as I know, they gave their $$ freely (no extortion).

It was a project that was attempted, and failed. A lot of time and some $$ was spent trying , but it never got past the mockup stage. I have lots of failed prototypes in my scrap pile that no one will ever see, it's all a part of the game. The fact that John involved others is Johns problem.

This is the end of the disucussion with regards to my part in this "transaction". Discussig it further will lead to more BS rumors and hate and it will have nothing to do with me.

Feel free to discuss it all you want, but I won't be a party to that.

I'm not saying in any way that you are the hater and BS'er, I'm sayign the SQ qroup as a whole is "full of it" on this perticular subject and I have no desire to be a part of it.

[METRIC]

Originally Posted by 86tsi

I had nothing to do with that "transaction", your link is proof of that.

It's like this: say you loaned a tool to your neighbor to fix up and sell his car. The car gets sold and the buyer gets mad because it turns out to be a lemon and he's out all that $$ on a junk car.

Are you a bad person in this scenerio?

I have nothing to hide, and you can link anywone you wish to this topic, they'll see it the same way. What I don't want to hear is all the hate, BS rumors, and inuendo.

It's too expensive to reproduce and have a viable marketable product, but John wanted to try anyway. I loaned him the head. What he did with the project, and to others $$ is not my business. I didn't ask for any compensation what-so-ever. I was not a partner, nor in any way tied to this projet other than as a material loan. I have no "sway" or "leverage" on John, what he told others woudl get for their $$ is entirely unknown to me, and as far as I know, they gave their $$ freely (no extortion).

It was a project that was attempted, and failed. A lot of time and some $$ was spent trying , but it never got past the mockup stage. I have lots of failed prototypes in my scrap pile that no one will ever see, it's all a part of the game. The fact that John involved others is Johns problem.

This is the end of the disucussion with regards to my part in this "transaction". Discussig it further will lead to more BS rumors and hate and it will have nothing to do with me.

Feel free to discuss it all you want, but I won't be a party to that.

I'm not saying in any way that you are the hater and BS'er, I'm sayign the SQ qroup as a whole is "full of it" on this perticular subject and I have no desire to be a part of it.

Thank you Chad for owning up to the Question.
I think this is good for the community in the long run.
I don't hold anything against you because of what John F Jamerson did,

You want to Loan/Sell Me and Kelly the head and maybe the Southwest can have a turn at it ???

We would not discuss it, just work on it.

[METRIC]

Bump for Kelly to read this...

[louswheel01]

DOHC and John F Jamerson.... I'm sure there are folk out there who are reminded of the taste of doo doo every time they hear the two phrases together!!

DOHC on G54 is not necessary anyways. It can make tons of HP just fine w/ 8 valves.

[METRIC]

Originally Posted by louswheel01

DOHC and John F Jamerson.... I'm sure there are folk out there who are reminded of the taste of doo doo every time they hear the two phrases together!!

DOHC on G54 is not necessary anyways. It can make tons of HP just fine w/ 8 valves.

Now don't forget Chad seems to have added to that flavor...

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by METRIC

Bump for Kelly to read this...

HOOOO, man. If that is not the biggest line of crap. Now it's evident that Chad and John F Jamerson were in it all along and split the $$$.

[Kelly]

Bump for those who were SCAMMED by Chad and John F Jamerson

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by 86tsi

I had nothing to do with that "transaction"

It was a project that was attempted, and failed. no one will ever see, it's all a part of the game. The fact that John involved others is Johns problem.

This is the end of the disucussion with regards to my part in this "transaction". I'm sayign the SQ qroup as a whole is "full of it" on this perticular subject and I have no desire to be a part of it.

Man that's a long list of members who are full of it so to say. Perhaps you and John F Jamerson were the ones really full of it! $$$ That is once you stole it freely from members as you stated.
BTW Your feedback on SQC is enough to make members think your untruthful anyways and cannot be involved in any moderating ever. Just wait until we get to the part where you almost Stole the SQC site from ryddler for me. The truth is going to come out as I have kept quiet for to long Chad. Your a mole on SQC, you turned your back on ryddler with the comments you made why ryddler should sell SQC and get out of the scene. If ryddler had know this then you would be gone along time ago, but we will get to that completely here and on www.starquestclub.net where the truth will set all of us free and put an end to the Nazi Moderating team on SQC that has plagued this community for too long and has divided us too long. You can say and do what you like on SQC as I will do the same here.
Dirty politics involve everyone including Robert Price aka ryddler
CHANGE is coming and not a minute to soon..

[louswheel01]

Originally Posted by 86tsi

I had nothing to do with that "transaction", your link is proof of that.

It's like this: say you loaned a tool to your neighbor to fix up and sell his car. The car gets sold and the buyer gets mad because it turns out to be a lemon and he's out all that $$ on a junk car.

Are you a bad person in this scenerio?

I have nothing to hide, and you can link anywone you wish to this topic, they'll see it the same way. What I don't want to hear is all the hate, BS rumors, and inuendo.

It's too expensive to reproduce and have a viable marketable product, but John wanted to try anyway. I loaned him the head. What he did with the project, and to others $$ is not my business. I didn't ask for any compensation what-so-ever. I was not a partner, nor in any way tied to this projet other than as a material loan. I have no "sway" or "leverage" on John, what he told others woudl get for their $$ is entirely unknown to me, and as far as I know, they gave their $$ freely (no extortion).

It was a project that was attempted, and failed. A lot of time and some $$ was spent trying , but it never got past the mockup stage. I have lots of failed prototypes in my scrap pile that no one will ever see, it's all a part of the game. The fact that John involved others is Johns problem.

This is the end of the disucussion with regards to my part in this "transaction". Discussig it further will lead to more BS rumors and hate and it will have nothing to do with me.

Feel free to discuss it all you want, but I won't be a party to that.

I'm not saying in any way that you are the hater and BS'er, I'm sayign the SQ qroup as a whole is "full of it" on this perticular subject and I have no desire to be a part of it.

Wait, let me get this straight. The DOHC head was CHADS. Chad lend it to Jamerson so he can make money off Chads head, but Chad would get no compensation off Chads HEAD, that somebody else is making money on?

If I got a part that someone needs and I lend it to a friend so he can make money off it, as a courtesy, I'd at least expect a commission. Makes no sense to let some one make money off of something that belongs to me and I the owner of this object, make nothing.

[Kelly]

: I did it, but I didn't! It's OK he's a SQC moderator.

[METRIC]

Originally Posted by Kelly

: I did it, but I didn't! It's OK he's a SQC moderator.

Yeah it's too bad Chad "loaned a tool"
to JFJ so he could Screw the members on his site with it...

[Kelly]

The best part is Chad continues to avoid answering the real questions asked by those who donated to the cause. Never has he posted and of the so called "PROTO type(s) pictures to prove once and for all that his story has validity and some truth to it" This denotes theft and untruth fullness on Chad Samuels part. No proof ever posted showing any work/mock up type of head was ever attempted. The proof is in the pudding.
To those new members who are considering doing any business with Chad please be aware that his business ethics are simple. Screw the members out of $$$ and then bann them when they post negative feedback.
His feedback is copied here for all of you to read just what type of stand up guy he is not.

Originally Posted by louswheel01

Jamerson so he can make money off Chads head, that s, but Chad would get no compensation off Chads HEAD

funny

[xtremeboost]

Well , I became a member on this site with one goal in mind and that is to make sure that EVERYONE understands some other facts behind this scam and what a POS Chad is and those that allow him to still sell his junk on SQC .

Here are the facts :

One I called Chad on this 4 years ago and we talked in detail about this . He then gives me Johns number and I also have a talk with John . He was the deal as to what Chad heard over the phone from me . At that time I had a guy from India that was willing to not charge me one penny to make a copy of the DOHC on a Cad drawing and do ALL other mods to make teh head work on our block - this extra work was needed . The deal was that I had to buy 100 heads at about $225 each . I told Chad I will pay the FULL amount for all the heads I will pay to fly him or the head to India to get this done . All I wanted was to recover my investment . I told Chad I wanted 4 heads for myself , we would sell what I needed to get my money back then every other head would be his at NO cost to him ( AKA FREE ) . He never wanted to make this happen because it was all bull**** form the get-go and I smelled it soon after I notice he wouldn't do such a sweet deal . Hes a bum and low-life for stealing and so are the bums that support him !

This was nothing but a scam made my Chad and John , screw them both !


Frank




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[carguygibby]

Originally Posted by xtremeboost

Well , I became a member on this site with one goal in mind and that is to make sure that EVERYONE understands some other facts behind this scam and what a POS Chad is and those that allow him to still sell his junk on SQC .

Here are the facts :

One I called Chad on this 4 years ago and we talked in detail about this . He then gives me Johns number and I also have a talk with John . He was the deal as to what Chad heard over the phone from me . At that time I had a guy from India that was willing to not charge me one penny to make a copy of the DOHC on a Cad drawing and do ALL other mods to make teh head work on our block - this extra work was needed . The deal was that I had to buy 100 heads at about $225 each . I told Chad I will pay the FULL amount for all the heads I will pay to fly him or the head to India to get this done . All I wanted was to recover my investment . I told Chad I wanted 4 heads for myself , we would sell what I needed to get my money back then every other head would be his at NO cost to him ( AKA FREE ) . He never wanted to make this happen because it was all bull**** form the get-go and I smelled it soon after I notice he wouldn't do such a sweet deal . Hes a bum and low-life for stealing and so are the bums that support him !

This was nothing but a scam made my Chad and John , screw them both !


Frank




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Damn!

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by xtremeboost

Well , I became a member on this site with one goal in mind and that is to make sure that EVERYONE understands some other facts behind this scam and what a POS Chad is and those that allow him to still sell his junk on SQC .

Here are the facts :

One I called Chad on this 4 years ago and we talked in detail about this . He then gives me Johns number and I also have a talk with John . He was the deal as to what Chad heard over the phone from me . At that time I had a guy from India that was willing to not charge me one penny to make a copy of the DOHC on a Cad drawing and do ALL other mods to make teh head work on our block - this extra work was needed . The deal was that I had to buy 100 heads at about $225 each . I told Chad I will pay the FULL amount for all the heads I will pay to fly him or the head to India to get this done . All I wanted was to recover my investment . I told Chad I wanted 4 heads for myself , we would sell what I needed to get my money back then every other head would be his at NO cost to him ( AKA FREE ) . He never wanted to make this happen because it was all bull**** form the get-go and I smelled it soon after I notice he wouldn't do such a sweet deal . Hes a bum and low-life for stealing and so are the bums that support him !

This was nothing but a scam made my Chad and John , screw them both !


Frank




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Chads profile created Oct 30 2008
http://starquest.i-x.net/profile.php...profile&u=2103

[Kelly]

Figures. He still owes Questsi's brother a $1200 refund